EPISODE 18: Even Haunted elevators Are Very Safe

On this mini-episode, we discuss several haunted elevators across the nation, what the deal is with skipping floor numbers in elevators, and Kelly’s secret weirdo love for elevator engineering.

Conclusions: Apparently, elevators are really safe although they are also creepily haunted. 

Bonus material: We talk through the Elisa Lam mystery death, and the super creepy elevator footage right before she disappears.


Eerie Haunted elevators

The Haunted Algonquin Hotel

The Haunted Avalon Theater

The Adolphus Hotel’s ghosts

The Haunted Kennesaw House

University of Maryland Denton Hall, the haunted dorm

Elevator Group-think Experiment

Unlucky floor numbers in elevators

The tragic and mysterious death of Elisa Lam

The Elisa Lam elevator footage (warning – this is disturbing and creepy as all hell)

EPISODE 16: You can Curse Anything, Especially Dolls

This is more of a medium-sode but whatever, right? There are a lot of cursed things out there, people. 

Dolls are creepy AF. Apparently so are giant diamonds. Kelly will take all the cursed diamonds off your hands (but none of your haunted dolls! Send those to Sarah). 


The Busby Chair: Sit in the chair and DIE!

The cursed Hope diamond

The cursed Dehli purple sapphire

Valentino’s cursed ring

The curse of the Ice Man!

Annabelle (the scariest raggedy ann doll in the world)

Robert the (creepy horrible) Doll

Greg and Dana Newkirk (curators of the traveling museum of the occult, also week in weird)

Crone of the Catskills (this is truly frightening)

Billy the Idol of Nightmares



EPISODE 15: The Curse of Bathsheba Ruggles

Has Kelly been cursed by her murderous ancestor, Bathsheba? And if so did her over the top witch ceremony lift the curse for her and all the Ruggles women? For once we both agree – definitely real! Also, we spill the tea on epigenetics! 


Bathsheba Ruggles Spooner!

Noah the creepy drunken grandpa 

Nepalese royal family curse – seriously WTF!! 

The Kennedy Family Curse

Lore (the TV version) lobotomy episode (Season 1, Episode 2), “Echos”

Bruce Lee’s Curse

Transgenerational Epigenetic Inheritance: Bowers and Yehuda 2016 review: Intergenerational Transmission of Stress in humans

Horstheemke 2018 A critical view on transgenerational inheritance in humans

EPISODE 14: Luck of the Irish…and that one Croation dude

Do you think you’re a lucky person? Apparently, we both think we are! Sarah is clearly lucky because of her commitment to superstitions and lucky charms and Kelly‘s luck is I guess is just because she’s Irish? 

Stuff we discuss:

Irish people and luck: Apparently it comes from the fact that many of the most successful minors during the gold and silver rush were Irish and Irish American. Also apparently the phrase is meant to ridicule Irish folks since it had to be luck and not smarts. Screw you 19th-century racists!

Bill Morgan and his crazy luck rollercoaster. 

Luck lab and the lottery

Roy Sullivan Human Lightning Rod (so weird and also sad).

Frane Selak, is he lucky, unlucky, we can’t figure it out?!?

Superstition ScienceDamisch et al. 2010

Hot hand fallacy: Xu and Harvey 2014

The Luck Factor: The Scientific Study of the Lucky Mind (Richard Wiseman)

Why are these people lucky?

It’s A SIMULATION! Well at least this one is. Luck simulation science!

EPISODE 12: Watch Bray Road Beast with us!

This experimental minisode has us live watching the documentary “The Bray Road Beast”. We have a cute dog in attendance and wine on hand, so listen up then go get the dang thing and watch! 

We’d love to hear your thoughts on this episode (like it, hate it, love it, never do it again?) so email us:

Link to the documentary:

Lyle Blackburn, kind of a big deal:

Linda Godfrey links:
Her blog
And her Amazon page

What do Americans believe about Satan?


EPISODE 11: Real Life Incredibles

This week, we try and recover from the bummer of satanic panic with superpowers! Super smellers, folks who are strong AF, bones that never break, perfect memories and mega-athletes to name a few. We also talk about a whole mess of genetics, get excited people. 

Stuff we talked about:

EPISODE 10: The Total Absurdity of the Satanic Panic

This episode was sort of a bummer, sorry folks.

Major take homes: the Satanic Panic was bonkers, go nuts with the heavy metal and DnD, and our memories, for the most part, suck.  

On this minisode, we talk about the 80s Satanic Panic and how insane and unjust it was. Also, some deeply cool science about memory and the risks of listening to smooth jazz.

Stuff we discussed:

Vox article on the Satanic Panic

Heartbreaking Texas Monthly article on Dan and Fran Keller

The Satanic Temple (a political advocacy group)

Totally ridiculous videos of backmasking

Enstrom and Schmaltz “A walk on the Wild Side: The Impact of Music on Risk-Taking Likelihood

Baker and Brown “Suicide, self harm and survival strategies in contemporary heavy metal music: a cultural and literary analysis” 2016

The Devil Wears Headphones: A Brief History of Baskmasking by Bill Demain

A Short History of the Rise, Fall and Rise of Subliminal Messaging by Victoria Stern

False Memory of Dr. Elizabeth Loftus and Human Memory by Lindsay Dogson